The kref now does most of what cl_count + cl_user used to do. The only
remaining role for cl_count is to tell us if we are in a 'shutdown'
phase. We can provide that information using a single bit field instead
of a full atomic counter.
Also rename rpc_destroy_client() to rpc_close_client(), which reflects
better what its role is these days.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Replace it with explicit calls to rpc_shutdown_client() or
rpc_destroy_client() (for the case of asynchronous calls).
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Its use is at best racy, and there is only one user (lockd), which has
additional locking that makes the whole thing redundant.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Currently rpc_malloc sets req->rq_buffer internally. Make this a more
generic interface: return a pointer to the new buffer (or NULL) and
make the caller set req->rq_buffer and req->rq_bufsize. This looks much
more like kmalloc and eliminates the side effects.
To fix a potential deadlock, this patch also replaces GFP_NOFS with
GFP_NOWAIT in rpc_malloc. This prevents async RPCs from sleeping outside
the RPC's task scheduler while allocating their buffer.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
The RPC buffer size estimation logic in net/sunrpc/clnt.c always
significantly overestimates the requirements for the buffer size.
A little instrumentation demonstrated that in fact rpc_malloc was never
allocating the buffer from the mempool, but almost always called kmalloc.
To compute the size of the RPC buffer more precisely, split p_bufsiz into
two fields; one for the argument size, and one for the result size.
Then, compute the sum of the exact call and reply header sizes, and split
the RPC buffer precisely between the two. That should keep almost all RPC
buffers within the 2KiB buffer mempool limit.
And, we can finally be rid of RPC_SLACK_SPACE!
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Fix a regression due to the patch "NFS: disconnect before retrying NFSv4
requests over TCP"
The assumption made in xprt_transmit() that the condition
"req->rq_bytes_sent == 0 and request is on the receive list"
should imply that we're dealing with a retransmission is false.
Firstly, it may simply happen that the socket send queue was full
at the time the request was initially sent through xprt_transmit().
Secondly, doing this for each request that was retransmitted implies
that we disconnect and reconnect for _every_ request that happened to
be retransmitted irrespective of whether or not a disconnection has
already occurred.
Fix is to move this logic into the call_status request timeout handler.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
RFC3530 section 3.1.1 states an NFSv4 client MUST NOT send a request
twice on the same connection unless it is the NULL procedure. Section
3.1.1 suggests that the client should disconnect and reconnect if it
wants to retry a request.
Implement this by adding an rpc_clnt flag that an ULP can use to
specify that the underlying transport should be disconnected on a
major timeout. The NFSv4 client asserts this new flag, and requests
no retries after a minor retransmit timeout.
Note that disconnecting on a retransmit is in general not safe to do
if the RPC client does not reuse the TCP port number when reconnecting.
See http://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
The tk_pid field is an unsigned short. The proper print format specifier for
that type is %5u, not %4d.
Also clean up some miscellaneous print formatting nits.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
The error values are already propagated through task->tk_status, and
none of the callers check one without checking the other, so we can
drop the return value.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Fix the Oops in http://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138
We shouldn't be calling rpc_release_task() for tasks that are not active.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
For now we will assume that all transports will use the address format
buffers in the rpc_xprt struct to store their addresses. Change
rpc_peer2str() to be a generic routine to handle this, and get rid of the
print_address() op in the rpc_xprt_ops vector.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
All internal RPC client operations should no longer depend on the BKL,
however lockd and NFS callbacks may still require it.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Replace references to system_utsname to the per-process uts namespace
where appropriate. This includes things like uname.
Changes: Per Eric Biederman's comments, use the per-process uts namespace
for ELF_PLATFORM, sunrpc, and parts of net/ipv4/ipconfig.c
[jdike@addtoit.com: UML fix]
[clg@fr.ibm.com: cleanup]
[akpm@osdl.org: build fix]
Signed-off-by: Serge E. Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
Cc: Andrey Savochkin <saw@sw.ru>
Signed-off-by: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
pure s/u32/__be32/
[AV: large part based on Alexey's patches]
Signed-off-by: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
In a subsequent patch, this will allow the portmapper to take a reference
to the rpc_xprt for which it is updating the port number, fixing an Oops.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
- Ensure that the task aborts the RPC call only when it has actually timed out.
- Ensure that req->rq_majortimeo is initialised correctly.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
In case of any of the above errors occuring, delay for 3 seconds, then
handle as if it were a timeout error.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
This patch is optional.
It has been suggested that the RPC client internal functions used by upper
layer protocols (such as NFS) be exported via EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL. This
patch does that.
Test plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled as a module.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
The two function call API for creating a new RPC client is now obsolete.
Remove it.
Also, remove an unnecessary check to see whether the caller is capable of
using privileged network services. The kernel RPC client always uses a
privileged ephemeral port by default; callers are responsible for checking
the authority of users to make use of any RPC service, or for specifying
that a nonprivileged port is acceptable.
Test plan:
Repeated runs of Connectathon locking suite. Check network trace to ensure
correctness of NLM requests and replies.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Prepare for more generic transport endpoint handling needed by transports
that might use different forms of addressing, such as IPv6.
Introduce a single function call to replace the two-call
xprt_create_proto/rpc_create_client API. Define a new rpc_create_args
structure that allows callers to pass in remote endpoint addresses of
varying length.
Test-plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
IPv6 addresses are big (128 bytes). Now that no RPC client consumers treat
the addr field in rpc_xprt structs as an opaque, and access it only via the
API calls, we can safely widen the field in the rpc_xprt struct to
accomodate larger addresses.
Test plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Provide an API for formatting the remote peer address for printing without
exposing its internal structure. The address could be dynamic, so we
support a function call to get the address rather than reading it straight
out of a structure.
Test-plan:
Destructive testing (unplugging the network temporarily). Probably need
to rig a server where certain services aren't running, or that returns an
error for some typical operation.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Provide an API for retrieving the remote peer address without allowing
direct access to the rpc_xprt struct.
Test-plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Introduce a clean transport switch API for plugging in different types of
rpcbind mechanisms. For instance, rpcbind can cleanly replace the
existing portmapper client, or a transport can choose to implement RPC
binding any way it likes.
Test plan:
Destructive testing (unplugging the network temporarily). Connectathon
with UDP and TCP. NFSv2/3 and NFSv4 mounting should be carefully checked.
Probably need to rig a server where certain services aren't running, or
that returns an error for some typical operation.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Move connection and bind state that was maintained in the rpc_clnt
structure to the rpc_xprt structure. This will allow the creation of
a clean API for plugging in different types of bind mechanisms.
This brings improvements such as the elimination of a single spin lock to
control serialization for all in-kernel RPC binding. A set of per-xprt
bitops is used to serialize tasks during RPC binding, just like it now
works for making RPC transport connections.
Test-plan:
Destructive testing (unplugging the network temporarily). Connectathon
with UDP and TCP. NFSv2/3 and NFSv4 mounting should be carefully checked.
Probably need to rig a server where certain services aren't running, or
that returns an error for some typical operation.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Hide the contents and format of xprt->addr by eliminating direct uses
of the xprt->addr.sin_port field. This change is required to support
alternate RPC host address formats (eg IPv6).
Test-plan:
Destructive testing (unplugging the network temporarily). Repeated runs of
Connectathon locking suite with UDP and TCP.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Check the bounds of length specifiers more thoroughly in the XDR decoding of
NFS4 readdir reply data.
Currently, if the server returns a bitmap or attr length that causes the
current decode point pointer to wrap, this could go undetected (consider a
small "negative" length on a 32-bit machine).
Also add a check into the main XDR decode handler to make sure that the amount
of data is a multiple of four bytes (as specified by RFC-1014). This makes
sure that we can do u32* pointer subtraction in the NFS client without risking
an undefined result (the result is undefined if the pointers are not correctly
aligned with respect to one another).
Signed-Off-By: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
(cherry picked from 5861fddd64a7eaf7e8b1a9997455a24e7f688092 commit)
rpc_unlink() and rpc_rmdir() will dput the dentry reference for you.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
(cherry picked from a05a57effa71a1f67ccbfc52335c10c8b85f3f6a commit)
Make it take a dentry argument instead of a path
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
(cherry picked from 648d4116eb2509f010f7f34704a650150309b3e7 commit)
If we're part way through transmitting a TCP request, and the client
errors, then we need to disconnect and reconnect the TCP socket in order to
avoid confusing the server.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
(cherry picked from 031a50c8b9ea82616abd4a4e18021a25848941ce commit)
Currently this will not happen if we exit before rpc_new_task() was called.
Also fix up rpc_run_task() to do the same (for consistency).
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
We need to ensure that all writes to the XDR buffers are done before
req->rq_received is visible to other processors.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Add a simple mechanism for collecting stats in the RPC client. Stats are
tabulated during xprt_release. Note that per_cpu shenanigans are not
required here because the RPC client already serializes on the transport
write lock.
Test plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled. Basic performance regression
testing with high-speed networking and high performance server.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Account for various things that occur while an RPC task is executed.
Separate timers for RPC round trip and RPC execution time show how
long RPC requests wait in queue before being sent. Eventually these
will be accumulated at xprt_release time in one place where they can
be viewed from userland.
Test plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
This patch adds server ip address to be printed out when "server
requires stronger authentication" error occured.
Signed-off-by: Levent Serinol <lserinol@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
If not, we cannot guarantee that idmap->idmap_dentry, gss_auth->dentry and
clnt->cl_dentry are valid dentries.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
The Coverity checker spotted this possible NULL pointer dereference in
rpc_new_client().
Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
This removes more unneeded casts on the return value for kmalloc(),
sock_kmalloc(), and vmalloc().
Signed-off-by: Kris Katterjohn <kjak@users.sourceforge.net>
Acked-by: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
We want to wait for the cl_users to go down to zero, not for it to stay
positive. Quoth Trond (who wasn't even the author, but acked the wrong
version): "Argh! I need to increase my daily caffeine dosages."
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Convert sleep_on() to wait_event_timeout(). Probably safe with the BKL but
could be racy once BKL use in NFS-client is gone.
Acked-by: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Clean up: Every ULP that uses the in-kernel RPC client, except the NLM
client, sets cl_chatty. There's no reason why NLM shouldn't set it, so
just get rid of cl_chatty and always be verbose.
Test-plan:
Compile with CONFIG_NFS enabled.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
We'd like to hide fields in rpc_xprt and rpc_clnt from upper layer protocols.
Start by creating an API to force RPC rebind, replacing logic that simply
sets cl_port to zero.
Test-plan:
Destructive testing (unplugging the network temporarily). Connectathon
with UDP and TCP. NFSv2/3 and NFSv4 mounting should be carefully checked.
Probably need to rig a server where certain services aren't running, or
that returns an error for some typical operation.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Add RPC client transport switch support for replacing buffer management
on a per-transport basis.
In the current IPv4 socket transport implementation, RPC buffers are
allocated as needed for each RPC message that is sent. Some transport
implementations may choose to use pre-allocated buffers for encoding,
sending, receiving, and unmarshalling RPC messages, however. For
transports capable of direct data placement, the buffers can be carved
out of a pre-registered area of memory rather than from a slab cache.
Test-plan:
Millions of fsx operations. Performance characterization with "sio" and
"iozone". Use oprofile and other tools to look for significant regression
in CPU utilization.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
...and make sure that the "intr" flag also enables SIGHUP and SIGTERM to
interrupt RPC calls too (as per the Solaris implementation).
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Shrink the RPC task structure. Instead of storing separate pointers
for task->tk_exit and task->tk_release, put them in a structure.
Also pass the user data pointer as a parameter instead of passing it via
task->tk_calldata. This enables us to nest callbacks.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
If the call to xprt_transmit() fails due to socket buffer space
exhaustion, we do not need to re-encode the RPC message when we
loop back through call_transmit.
Re-encoding can actually end up triggering the WARN_ON() in
call_decode() if we re-encode something like a read() request and
auth->au_rslack has changed.
It can also cause us to increment the RPCSEC_GSS sequence number
beyond the limits of the allowed window.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
For privacy we need to allocate extra pages to hold encrypted page data when
wrapping requests. This allocation may fail, and we handle that case by
waiting and retrying.
Signed-off-by: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@citi.umich.edu>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Currently, call_encode will cause the entire RPC call to abort if it returns
an error. This is unnecessarily rigid, and gets in the way of attempts
to allow the NFSv4 layer to order RPC calls that carry sequence ids.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
After a server crash/reboot, rebinding should always retry, otherwise
requests on "hard" mounts will fail when they shouldn't.
Test plan:
Run a lock-intensive workload against a server while rebooting the server
repeatedly.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Currently rpc_mkdir/rpc_rmdir and rpc_mkpipe/mk_unlink have an API that's
a little unfortunate. They take a path relative to the rpc_pipefs root and
thus need to perform a full lookup. If you look at debugfs or usbfs they
always store the dentry for directories they created and thus can pass in
a dentry + single pathname component pair into their equivalents of the
above functions.
And in fact rpc_pipefs actually stores a dentry for all but one component so
this change not only simplifies the core rpc_pipe code but also the callers.
Unfortuntately this code path is only used by the NFS4 idmapper and
AUTH_GSSAPI for which I don't have a test enviroment. Could someone give
it a spin? It's the last bit needed before we can rework the
lookup_hash API
Signed-off-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
In fact, ->set_buffer_size should be completely functionless for non-UDP.
Test-plan:
Check socket buffer size on UDP sockets over time.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Each transport implementation can now set unique bind, connect,
reestablishment, and idle timeout values. These are variables,
allowing the values to be modified dynamically. This permits
exponential backoff of any of these values, for instance.
As an example, we implement exponential backoff for the connection
reestablishment timeout.
Test-plan:
Destructive testing (unplugging the network temporarily). Connectathon
with UDP and TCP.
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Add a generic mechanism for skipping over transport-specific headers
when constructing an RPC request. This removes another "xprt->stream"
dependency.
Test-plan:
Write-intensive workload on a single mount point (try both UDP and
TCP).
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Clean-up: change some comments to reflect the realities of the new RPC
transport switch mechanism. Get rid of unused xprt_receive() prototype.
Also, organize function prototypes in xprt.h by usage and scope.
Test-plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled.
Version: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:07:21 -0400
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Clean-up: get rid of unnecessary socket.h and in.h includes in the generic
parts of the RPC client.
Test-plan:
Compile kernel with CONFIG_NFS enabled.
Version: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:06:23 -0400
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Move the bulk of client-side socket-specific code into a separate source
file, net/sunrpc/xprtsock.c.
Test-plan:
Millions of fsx operations. Performance characterization such as "sio" or
"iozone". Destructive testing (unplugging the network temporarily, server
reboots). Connectathon with v2, v3, and v4.
Version: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:03:38 -0400
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Implement a best practice: for soft mounts, an rpcbind timeout should
cause an RPC request to fail.
This also provides an FSM hook for retrying an rpcbind with a different
rpcbind protocol version. We'll use this later to try multiple rpcbind
protocol versions when binding. To enable this, expose the RPC error
code returned during a portmap request to the FSM so it can make some
decision about how to report, retry, or fail the request.
Test-plan:
Hundreds of passes with connectathon NFSv3 locking suite, on the client
and server.
Version: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:01:53 -0400
Signed-off-by: Chuck Lever <cel@netapp.com>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
For internal purposes, the rpc_clnt_sigmask() call is replaced by
a call to rpc_task_sigmask(), which ensures that the current task
sigmask respects both the client cl_intr flag and the per-task NOINTR flag.
Problem noted by Jiaying Zhang.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Currently we return -ENOMEM for every single failure to create a new auth.
This is actually accurate for auth_null and auth_unix, but for auth_gss it's a
bit confusing.
Allow rpcauth_create (and the ->create methods) to return errors. With this
patch, the user may sometimes see an EINVAL instead. Whee.
Signed-off-by: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@citi.umich.edu>
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Ensure that we don't create an RPC client without checking that the server
does indeed support the RPC program + version that we are trying to set up.
This enables us to immediately return an error to "mount" if it turns out
that the server is only supporting NFSv2, when we requested NFSv3 or NFSv4.
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Fix up call_header() so that it calls xdr_adjust_iovec().
Fix calculation of the scratch buffer length in xdr_init_encode().
Signed-off-by: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Initial git repository build. I'm not bothering with the full history,
even though we have it. We can create a separate "historical" git
archive of that later if we want to, and in the meantime it's about
3.2GB when imported into git - space that would just make the early
git days unnecessarily complicated, when we don't have a lot of good
infrastructure for it.
Let it rip!